Christ refers to a Man

Christos means anointed one.

If Christ refers to God, it does not make sense to anoint God.

Why would be a creator of all things be anointed? He is the one who anoints not, He will be the one to be anointed. Having said this, Christ is referring to the human flesh to which God manifested- the human flesh born through a woman, this was the anointed one, a chosen flesh.

For this reason, Christ is a man since this refers to the flesh where God manifested. This God who manifested in the Flesh is the Son since He was also called God in Heb 1:8 who also has a God in Heb 1:9.

Now, where is the Father in all of these?

Answer: Father is the One Spirit or, Life in the Son whether before becoming Christ, during and after becoming Christ.

The Father after He created the Son or the Image of the invisible God always dwelt in the Son even before the beginning of time. Without the Father in the Son, the Son whether before becoming Christ, during and after becoming Christ cannot do anything. Father is the Life in the Son in exact essence. But, though the Father is in the Son hence one, Father is not the Son nor the Son is the Father.

If put in a formula;

The pre- Christ Existence of the Son is below;

Spirt x Soul = Son

First to be brought into existence, the spiritual form of the Image of God liken to the Angels. He was the one impressed as God in the Old.

The Christ or during the realization of being Christ;

Spirit x Soul x Human Flesh = Son as Christ

-The human form of the Image of God

Post Christ, the fulfillment of being Christ;

Spirit x Soul x Glorified Flesh = Son

-Preeminence in all, first in creation now in the dead. The complete form of the Image of God.

Whereby, all throughout, the Spirit in the Son is part of the One Spirit Father that though present in the Son is also present outside the Son. This one Spirit has a will of its own, invisible and can only be known and seen through His visible image called the begotten Son who inherited the name of His Father. Son too though being made alive by the Father within has a life of its own in a sense that He has a will of its own, the man was created in this Image – One being in duality to which, the spirit within is impersonal towards the one being made alive.

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Bring all the tithes into the storehouse?

Mal 3:9-10, notice that in that verse, it did not say who shall collect in the storehouse, you cannot anyhow bring the 10% without any person receiving it right? Mal 3:9-10 did not mention this, where was this mentioned? Nehemiah 10:38, there, you’ll find that Levites has the instruction to collect and bring the tithes to the Storehouse.

Mal 3:9-10 actually has an instruction for the Levites to bring the tithes to the storehouse to which in Heb 7:12, they were changed.

And so, since they were changed, who now has the right to collect tithe in relation to Mal 3:9-10?

None! Those who collect it now in relation to Mal 3:9-10 actually have no permission to collect it. They are in short scamming you if you are being asked to give 10% in relation to Mal 3:9-10.

Yes! You are being scammed, not entirely to their fault but yours also.

“My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I also will reject you from being priest for Me; Because you have forgotten the law of your God, I also will forget your children.”Hosea‬ ‭4:6‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

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The Most Abused Verse in the Bible

The most abused verse is the above. This verse is a lifeline. When a verse says that, “AT ANY TIME” Father is not seen (John 1:18, John 5:37). Some would use this lifeline saying, In God, nothing is impossible, if He wants to be seen, He can.

When someone says that creation did not happen in literal 6 days as in like 144hours, some would use this lifeline saying, In God, nothing is impossible, if He can create everything in a snap of a finger, He can.

When someone says, the flesh is not per se the Father rather, the manifestation of the Father which means the Father is in the Flesh, not the Father is the Flesh, some would use this lifeline saying, In God, nothing is impossible, if He can be the flesh Himself, He can.

Well, since everything is possible with God. Why did He not save Man at the moment the man sinned? Why did He not, at the snap of His finger save once and for all mankind at this very moment? Nothing is impossible, right?

Then, they would use the verse in Ecc 3:1-18 that says, its because though nothing is impossible with God, everything has a season, there is a process for everything, even God uses a process to create and to save.

This is basically my answer too, though He can be seen if He wants to, He did this indirectly through His created visible Image (Son) which, through this Image, He is seen. This Image though being made alive by the Father also has a life of its own in a sense that, the Image of the Invisible God or the Son has a will of its own which is in sync with the will of the Father so that, whatever the Father purpose or wish to do is being done through the Son in an exact manner the Father wishes it to be done (John 5:19).

This Image of the Invisible God was the first-ever creation of the Father (Col 1:15) to which, because He willfully choose to obey the will of the Father obtains by inheritance the name of the Father, and since they are in one accord, the Image of the invisible God was permitted to speak in the first person as if He was His father in the old testament. This was before He was sent to manifest in the flesh, after all, He also has the name of the Father made known only when the Son was sent to become the Flesh.

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The Currency of Tithe

In the case of currency, money was already used way back even before Abraham, under the law, and to date yet, the instruction was specific in Lev 27:30 that, should one give a tithe that comes from the land, the option was whether the (1) seed of the land or (2) fruit of the tree and, should one give livestock, the 10th that passes the rod was the tithe (Lev 27:32)

In short, money was not in the option. In fact, if the place of worship was too far (Deut 14:24-26), it can be exchanged with money (proving that money was already in used) but, should they reach the place of worship, they would spend it buying foods and not directly given in the currency of money.

Should the Pastors said that they were mostly farmers at that time, well, I beg to differ, Pharisee in Matt 23:23 were not farmers yet, they gave in anis, Cummins, etc.

Matt 22: 21-22 is typically used to prove that we should render to Ceasar what is Ceasar’s and render to God what is of God.

But, if you read it from verse 18 to 22 when Jesus was tested, He asked first for the money and asked, Whose image and inscription is this? When they said, Ceasar’s, he responded saying, Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s.

Here, Jesus clearly identifies that money was of Ceasar’s yet, what is of Ceasar’s is also given to God? Should this be the case, Jesus distinguishing that money was of Ceasar’s became pointless since it is also being given now as a currency of tithe.

In actuality, the tithe which is of God was not really given in the currency of money but in the currency of agriculture and livestock since God’s inscription is on those.

Although the raw material of Money came from God, the finished product which is money is of Man, while agricultural and animals are of God.

The above is the requirement of WHAT to tithe.

In today’s time, however it may seem inconvenient, the above is still doable. But, the second requirement which is according to Num 18:21, Nehemiah 10:38 was to be received by Levites is now impossible to do because, in Heb 7:12, they were change and so, even if we used the concept of parallelism, should a pastor parallel themselves to Levites nowadays, they would just parallel themselves to someone who already loses the rights to collect it since tithe was given to Levites in connection to their priestly obligation.

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The Sense of What is Good and Evil

When man was created, initially, they have no knowledge of what is good and evil, the serpent deceive them to eat what was not allowed for them to eat on a bet that, though they will know what is good and evil, this will eventually be overturned so that, as time goes by, humanity will lose its grasp on what is really good and evil. Although it is inherent for man to know what is good and evil, environment and people around him can twist it.

The 10 commandments that Moses received were the basic guidance into going back to what humanity is loosing which is the original sense of what is good and evil and, as Moses expounds this guidance, it can’t help but have similarity in ancient law like the Hammurabi’s Code. In all truth, such similarity does not demonstrate that Moses plagiarized the code of Hammurabi. What the similarities do show is that murder, theft, adultery, and kidnapping are problems in every society and nations that must be addressed. Even today, countries throughout the world have similar laws. Such parallels certainly don’t prove plagiarism otherwise, should Moses be accused of plagiarism, those countries with similar laws also committed the same crime.

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The Begotten Son

John 1:18 and John 10:34 as according to Strong’s number are both 2316 which means theos defined as God, a god.

Question is, the theos in John 10:34 are they not created? If they are, how about the theos in John 1:18? Begotten is a past participle of “beget” which means brought into existence by or as if by a parent. This begotten God or brought into existence God admittedly confirm it by Himself in Isaiah 43:10 that, before Him, no god was formed, nor will there be one after Him.

It was the Son who was in the Old Testament, Son as defined in Col 1:15 is the Image of the invisible God, He was the one seen in the old, seen by Moses and Jacob but at that point in time, the Son, of course, has no human flesh yet. Same as the man in John 10:34, Son too was called God in Heb 1:8 but though He was called God, He too has a God in Heb 1:9.

“The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.”Colossians‬ ‭1:15‬ ‭NIV‬‬

“But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.” Hebrews‬ ‭1:8‬ ‭NIV‬‬

“You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy.”Hebrews‬ ‭1:9‬ ‭NIV‬‬

He was impressed as God but though He was impressed as one, He too was brought into existence by the Father- His only begotten God, and because by foreknowledge He will obey His Father all throughout, He obtains by inheritance the name above all names (Heb 1:4) which is His Father’s name made known only when the Son was sent to become a Man or Christ. His Father’s complete name is JESUS which means, I AM SAVIOUR revealed through the Son.

“I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of YOUR NAME, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one.”John‬ ‭17:11‬ ‭NIV‬‬

“She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus, because he will save his people from their sins.”Matthew‬ ‭1:21‬ ‭NIV‬‬

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Is the Roman Catholic Church the One Founded by Christ?

Let me start by defining what is church first.

Biblically, church is Christ’s body both in natural first then became spiritual or symbolic.

“For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior.” Ephesians 5:23

“But it is not the spiritual that is first but the natural, and then the spiritual.” 1 Corinthians 15:46

The natural first happened which is his literal body as the church.

When He said;

“And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” Matthew 16:18

The rock in strong concordance is “petra”

Strong’s Concordance

petra: a (large mass of) rock

Original Word: πέτρα, ας, ἡ

Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine

Transliteration: petra

Phonetic Spelling: (pet’-ra)

Definition: a (large mass of) rock

Usage: a rock, ledge, cliff, cave, stony ground

This means that the “rock” is not simply like a small rock being held by Christ showing it to Peter rather, He must be referring to a huge mass of rock (a boulder), such as a projecting cliff meaning, the Christ must be referring to a stony ground where He stands to which He will build His church. This stony ground is “Israel“, true enough, Christianity started from Israel to which the center is Jerusalem. This is where Christ’s Church was built. As defined earlier, church refers to His body, therefore, this is where His body was built, in Israel His body was born. His body was crucified, resurrected, ascended also in Israel. All in all, the literal body of Christ- the church was built in Israel, the rock also is a symbolism of a cornerstone in which a structure is build upon, this cornerstone is Israel where Christianity in all nations begins.

Peter which means rock in which, apart from the symbolic meaning-cornerstone also symbolizes strong or solid foundation meaning, doctrines and beliefs should be built from the revelations given to Peter which no doubt are solid foundation (rock).

So, now we knew what is the church which is the literal body of Christ build by Himself in Israel, and that the doctrines and beliefs about Jesus Christ should be built from the revelation given to Peter, this is what Matthew 16:18 mean.

As the verse says,

“Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” John 2:19

This alone proves that the founding church or the body of Christ is not catholic. Catholic means universal, how can the body of Christ initially be universal when His body stand-alone and was in Jerusalem?

Now, let’s move to the spiritual meaning of the body of Christ. The church spiritually is an assembly of people who worship God in Spirit.

“For just as the body is one and has many members, and all the members of the body, though many, are one body, so it is with Christ.” 1 Corinthians 12:12

Can the church be an individual? Yes! In fact, the founding church who was Christ Himself is an individual and as an individual, we strive to be like Christ following his steps (1 Peter 2:21) Therefore, striving to be like Christ is striving to be a church ourselves. Every individual in Christ is a church within the church, it’s like circles within the big one circle. The circle that encompass the smaller circles within are all called circles.

Now, we have defined the church as both an assembly of believers and an individual who worships God in Spirit. The question now becomes, what is the label of this assembly and individuals who worship God in Spirit? Were they called Catholics?

Well, to be labeled as one, the early church must have taught what is and has been taught historically by the Catholics. Let’s find out then if this is so using the parameter that Jesus Himself had set.

“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?” Matthew 7:15-16

“You will recognize them by their fruits”. Fruits of a person basically range not just referring to progeny but what comes from within produced by that person, such as but not limited to words, action, teachings, characters, etc. And so, the fruit that was mentioned can be referred to teachings produced by the early church. Using this parameter and comparing it with the teachings of the Catholics either in the past or in today’s time, we will have an idea whether the fruit (teachings) that were and are being taught by Catholics are the same as the fruit (teachings) produced by the early church. Then, let the reader judge.

So, let’s start with this teaching, “tithing”.

In Number 18:21, tithing according to the law was given to Levites as their inheritance in return for the work they will perform concerning the tabernacle. So, as long as the Levites were functioning, this part of the law was effective. Heb 8:4 says the priesthood of Christ was not effective while He was on earth as there were Levites who function as priests according to the law. And so, from the old up to when Christ ascended, this tithing law was effective. For this reason, the Christ while on earth still encourages Pharisees to pay what was due to the Levites in Matt 23:23, but after ascension, the early church has no record that they practice this, even encouraging everybody to follow their example and work and not make money out of the Gospel as it was freely received, therefore should be freely given.

See: 2 Thessalonians 3:7-10

Now, let’s used the above early church teaching and practice as a baseline whether Catholics did at some point in time teach and practice tithing.

An excerpt this wikipedia link says;

The Council of Trent, which was held after the Reformation, taught that “tithes are due to God or to religion, and that it is sacrilegious to withhold them.”Nowadays the Catholic Church no longer requires anyone to give ten percent of income.

This can also be found on the decree concerning reform chapter XII and I quote;

“Tithes to be paid in full: those withholding, or hindering, the payment thereof are to be excommunicated.”

See, early church never teaches tithing yet at some point in time, catholic had decree tithing.

Ironically, catholic also teaches infallibility. According to Catholics encyclopedia, an ecumenical council is an organ of infallibility to which, by their definition, infallibility is the exemption or immunity from liability to error or failure.

This doctrine of infallibility was defined dogmatically at the First Ecumenical Council of the Vatican of 1869–1870 in the document Pastor aeternus, but had been defended before that, existing already in medieval theology and being the majority opinion at the time of the Counter-Reformation, this counter reformation began with the Council of Trent (1545–1563). See here and here for the source.

Given the above premise, it follows that the 19th ecumenical council which is the council of Trent should have produced decrees that are infallible or immune to error since supposedly, whatever they define was a prefaced with the apostolic formula yet, tithing which was part of the decrees is not being practiced by Catholics nowadays. Infallible decrees since it’s not in error should be continuously practiced all throughout, yet now in particular to tithing, Catholics are not excommunicated since they don’t tithe.

Again, See! I have proven that the catholic in history had taught different from what the early church had taught, moreover, I also have shown that the ecumenical council which is an organ of infallibility is also bound to error otherwise, catholic nowadays should still be practicing tithing or else excommunicated.

Another teaching that even to date the Catholics teaches is the baptism in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Let’s check whether this is a fruit also of the early church.

Biblically, Jesus did instruct in Matt 28:19 to baptized in the name of the Father of the Son, Holy Spirit but when this instruction was executed, the early church used the name Jesus Christ coming from Peter Himself (Acts 2:38)- the catholic first pope “supposedly”, whatever His reason was, He already has the authority to bind whatever on earth which will also be binding in heaven (Matthew 16:19). And so, there has to be a reason why Peter had baptized in the name of Jesus Christ instead of baptizing in 3 title names which I explained in this link, click here. This has to be one of the keys in heaven which were also given to Him.

In the history of the acts of apostles, they never baptized in 3 title names rather, they baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Acts 10:48, Acts 8:16, Acts 19:5 are proofs.

If the early church was labeled as catholic, how so that their baptism formula is different from the one being used by catholic even in today’s time? Is there a possibility that those who supposedly succeed in the early church have somehow deviated from what was originally taught?

The bible has an answer:

“I know that after my departure fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; Acts 20:29

Catholics do claim that their first pope was Peter followed by Linus then Cletus and so on, this is the so-called Apostolic Succession, a chain of authority that is unbroken “supposedly”. How accurate is this anyway? Is this not contestable?

An excerpt from newworldencyclopedia says;

Linus’s term of office, according to the papal lists that follow Irenaeus’ lead, lasted 12 years. The Liberian Catalogue specifies 12 years, four months, and 12 days, giving the dates as 56-67 C.E. The Liber Pontificalis corroborates this, speaking of his reign as lasting from the consulship of Saturninus and Scipio through that of Capito and Rufus. This, however, presents a problem for Catholic tradition, since Peter himself was thought to have reigned as pope at Rome until his death c. 64.

Linus pontification was dated at 56 C.E yet, Peter was thought to have reigned as Pope of Rome until 64 C.E, this suggests an overlap of 8 years whereby during these years, 2 Popes was reigning both at the same time? Supposedly, succession is when authority is passed from a predecessor Pontiff to a successor Pontiff yet, how could there be an overlapping? Is it possible that Linus was appointed without the knowledge of Peter? Were they even communicating?

Catholic Encyclopedia says that the date given by Liberian Catalogue was in error but in the anomalies pointed by George Edmundson (source Wikipedia), this supposed error was not included. Moreover, the 56-67 C.E dates were also collaborated by the Liber Pontificales to which, Catholic encyclopedia did not say in error hence solidifying it. 

The bible did say;

“This will be my third visit to you. “Every matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.”2 Corinthians 13:1

Moreover, there is inconsistency in how the authority was passed on, how so? Authority was passed from Christ to Peter, He had the full authority to decide on his successor thus, by his discretion, whoever he chooses, it would have been binding on earth and in heaven yet, Linus was not personally chosen by Peter rather, like other bishops, Linus was chosen by the consensus of the clergy and laity of the diocese, click here. This alone proves disconnection, not to mention that before 1059, Papal appointment was often characterized by confirmation or “nomination” by secular European rulers such as Kings who are not even spiritual leaders, click here. Henry III, for instance, installed the 3 successors to Pope Leo IX (1049–54), all Germans, without the formality of an election. Click here for the source. Who gave authority to these Kings anyway to assign a representative of Christ on earth?

And Lastly, the last apostle who died was John AD 6 – 100. Click here.

According to Wikipedia, the pope is a supreme pontiff. John outlived at least 2 popes, it makes no sense that John who was one of the 12 apostles became lower than Linus and Cletus who obtained the Pope title- supreme pontiff.

The bible says;

“And God has appointed in the church first apostles…”1 Corinthians 12:28

“And he gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the shepherds and teachers,” Ephesians 4:11

In conclusion, by defining what is church which is the body of Christ literally and figuratively, I believe I have presented clearly that the body of Christ was not or should not be labeled as Catholics in a sense that, the early church did not adhere to the teachings of the Catholics sometime in history and in today’s time, and that the apostolic succession is highly contested.

One definition of succession is, the action or process of inheriting a title, office, property, etc. The subject of inheritance to which one can be considered as an apostle’s successor is their teachings in a sense that, anyone who teaches in line and not contradicting to the doctrines and tradition of the apostles has succeeded them.

Remember, the only way to know who is the true church is by their fruits, one of these fruits is their teachings which should be coherent and not contradicting with the fruits that the early church had yield for, after all, they are the foundation if not, it’s probably not the true church. 

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Timothy 4:3-4

But, I do respect Catholic beliefs, it’s personal anyway, we alone are responsible for what we choose to believe.

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